Secondary Considerations

[Topcat]

That would not fly here, and I'm glad of that because I think it's bloody awful! If you're graduating, you get to go to prom.

That's how I see it too.

[Cerise]

That would not fly here, and I'm glad of that because I think it's bloody awful! If you're graduating, you get to go to prom.

That's how I see it too.

But if you’ve been abusive to staff and peers, failed to do your work, bunked off school and been poorly behaved when you’re there, should you really get to go? You don’t have to pass anything to finish school here.

[Topcat]

If you've been that bad then surely you shouldn't be at the school?

Aside from abusiveness the rest of it should absolutely be let go for (what has become) such a monumental occassion for school children and their leaving. To be excluded is terrible.

[Little My]

Exactly - why are they in school if they're so abusive? But regardless, the net appears to be cast far wider than that.

It seems like grabbing one final opportunity to kick 'bad' kids in the teeth out of spite. There's nothing to gain from doing that.

[Cerise]

I might be alone but I totally disagree.

[Luce]

Ours does similar in that if you have had very shit behaviour, then you don’t get to go. Same for gcse study leave. Doesn’t bother me hugely, a ‘prom’ is a privilege not a right! Plus, if you’d not managed to behave in a class then I doubt you’d manage not ruining the party for everyone else.

I also think it’s made very clear from the beginning. Same for school trips. It’s not like they don’t know what’s at risk if they decided to punch a teacher or something.

[Pippedydeadeye]

I think everyone having to earn the privilege is a better point to begin from than having it and losing it.

[Cerise]

Did you know that you can find individual chats in WhatsApp that can only be accessed by Face ID or similar? Worth knowing if you happen to have an “open phone” deal with your kids!

[Ruby]

I might be alone but I totally disagree.

I know I'm necroposting but I also totally agree.

My school regularly gets beasted on social media by a dad whose daughter wasn't allowed to go to prom 3 years ago. He's whipped up a lot of people about it and the school obviously can't chip in. The girl in question was banned because she basically stalked and threatened a whole group of girls - her and her friends jumped someone and put her in hospital. There was a whole series of incidents that led to community reprisals etc. :ella: And yet the dad is still moaning because he had already spent £800 on a dress. Tough shit.

The threshold for excluding a pupil from school can be very high - particularly if they have SEND needs or are in care. At my school, there are maybe 10-15 kids in each year group who are not naughty enough to be kicked out, but I definitely wouldn't want to see socially. Teachers and staff give up their free time to host and organise the Prom. I'm not going to do that for some little shit who has been calling me a cunt for the past three years. By all means organise and supervise your own but I'm not looking after anyone who's a liability, violent, abusive etc.The other students should also have the right to have a decent celebration without the local toerags ruining it.

Almost every school has a "prom passport" that you have to earn through going to revision, attendance, achievement points etc. I personally don't know anyone who has ever been excluded because of attendance.

[Luce]

My poor friend was volunteering for the prom last year (she’s a teacher) and got a teenager’s vomit all over her hair. I could never.

[Ruby]

:lol: oh no. We haven't had someone obviously drunk or stoned for a couple of years. The first one post-covid was a wild ride though. Mostly they just want to have a lot of photos with you which, I'm not going to lie, makes you want to kill yourself and/or get a full face-lift by the end of the night.

[Loralei]

:lol: oh no. We haven't had someone obviously drunk or stoned for a couple of years. The first one post-covid was a wild ride though. Mostly they just want to have a lot of photos with you which, I'm not going to lie, makes you want to kill yourself and/or get a full face-lift by the end of the night.

I did wince at your FB status the other week, about standing next to teenagers who've spent all day in professional hair and make up :lol:

One of our long term students was banned from his prom after being caught buying alcohol for the younger boarders. His guardian and I felt sorry for him but agreed that we'd probably feel it was justified if it was our young teenagers he'd helped get drunk.

[Texaco Shirley]

What a week. A is officially now taller than me and L passed his driving test this morning. I feel a bit old.

[Loralei]

Congratulations, L! :bel: It's disconcerting to have to look up at your children, isn't it. I reckon we fed them too well.

[Little My]

Well done, L.

R keeps mentioning she can apply for her learners permit in a year. :)) It must be weird watching your child drive off!

[Texaco Shirley]

Not so scary as actually being in the car with them :lol:

[Little My]

Oh god, I remember my friend explaining how fun it was when her daughter was learning how to drive. "Mom! You need to chill!", whilst hurting towards doom. :lol:

[Texaco Shirley]

I only went out with him once and I nearly had cramp from pushing on a non-existent brake :lol:

[Topcat]

The Child has told me which Yamaha she wants when she turns seventeen. And we aren't talking about a keyboard here either.

[Texaco Shirley]

L has his heart set on a classic mini. Apparently it will be relatively cheap to insure and he’ll be able to work kn it himself if it goes wrong.