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Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:35 pm
by smalex
Oh well. That's fine. It's not like we need a functioning public transport system in the capital city
. For fucks sake. I fucking hate these people.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:37 pm
by Rebel Pebble
They also want to undermine Khan and this is their chance to both extend their reach into TFL and make sure he gets blamed for, well, everything.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:40 pm
by Ella77
I think his plans sound really good, although I’m probably missing something.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:41 pm
by Marth
Rebel Pebble wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:37 pm
They also want to undermine Khan and this is their chance to both extend their reach into TFL and make sure he gets blamed for, well, everything.
Yes, election next year. Boris missed all his targets as mayor , designed new routemaster buses then took the conductors off them, causing high non payment, and spunked a lot of money on a stupid garden bridge that won't be built, but still, that's better than a hopper fare for some of our most poorly paid workers.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:43 pm
by Marth
Ella77 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:40 pm
I think his plans sound really good, although I’m probably missing something.
No, your not missing anything. khan's plans around cycling walking and traffic free routes are great. Khan however will be blamed for putting up the tube and bus fares etc etc
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:49 pm
by Rebel Pebble
Marth wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:41 pm
Rebel Pebble wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:37 pm
They also want to undermine Khan and this is their chance to both extend their reach into TFL and make sure he gets blamed for, well, everything.
Yes, election next year. Boris missed all his targets as mayor , designed new routemaster buses then took the conductors off them, causing high non payment, and spunked a lot of money on a stupid garden bridge that won't be built, but still, that's better than a hopper fare for some of our most poorly paid workers.
Yep. And Khan has always been a die hard, vocal, remainer. I reckon they have truly loathed him since the 2018/19 fireworks.
And somehow he constantly gets blamed for rising knife crime, when it's the years of Tory policy that have led to it and the riots happened on Johnson's watch yet somehow he wasn't to blame for that.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:53 pm
by Marth
From the evening standard :
Free travel for 1.5 million London schoolchildren will be temporarily axed this summer and over-60s will no longer be able to travel for free at peak times.
Details emerged today of the price Londoners will have to pay in return for the £1.6 billion in emergency funds for Transport for London.
Totally political and targets the poor (as fucking usual)
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:56 pm
by Rebel Pebble
I didn't actually know that the over 60s could travel free in peak. I thought that was the reason for the "twirlies" moniker
What a complete load of shit, though.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:53 am
by Bat Macdui
Playbook has some good stuff on what Rishi Eyebrows is up to today, if anyone fancies a bit of economic geekery. Goat will like it, the whole Playbook briefing this morning is sponsored by fish.
The Guaridan has been plugging
this idea about UK adults getting £500 vouchers to spend in struggling UK economy areas. Which is either a lot of lattes OR 0.01% of a family holiday to Centre Parcs, I think.
I think the scheme happening well improbable, but you know, weird times.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:17 am
by Pippedydeadeye
It’s seems mad, but I missed out on being given £250 for a change bag* when I was pregnant, so I’d take it.
*it was meant to be for healthy food, but I don’t know anyone who spent it on carrots.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:22 am
by Bat Macdui
Is that like the Sure Start thing which ended up full of Yummy Mummys doing baby massage? *ducks*
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:12 am
by Chicky
I am desperately hoping that if stamp duty cuts are announced they start immediately rather than in the autumn. DESPERATELY.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:25 am
by Marth
Bat Macdui wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:22 am
Is that like the Sure Start thing which ended up full of Yummy Mummys doing baby massage? *ducks*
And all the "hard to reach" mothers not feeling able to attend. Hackney, I am looking at you. It was a scandal I thought.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:37 am
by emma_p
Chicky wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:12 am
I am desperately hoping that if stamp duty cuts are announced they start immediately rather than in the autumn. DESPERATELY.
It would happen straight away - they want to kick start house sales, not add to the delays.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:40 am
by nineseven
I wish they'd refund me the epic stamp duty I paid at the end of February
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 am
by Loralei
Bat Macdui wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:22 am
Is that like the Sure Start thing which ended up full of Yummy Mummys doing baby massage? *ducks*
No, Sure Start had demonstrable and considerable advantages to the poorest families (although clearly wasn't without controversy; I hadn't heard about the Hackney thing). The scandal is that it was cancelled. The maternity fund was a bit odd though, as someone who recieved it twice but didn't really need it.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:05 am
by Chicky
emma_p wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:37 am
Chicky wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:12 am
I am desperately hoping that if stamp duty cuts are announced they start immediately rather than in the autumn. DESPERATELY.
It would happen straight away - they want to kick start house sales, not add to the delays.
The initial talk was of it being in the autumn but it seems more likely they’ll go for it Immediately to avoid delays. I hope so!
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:24 am
by Mountain Goat
Bat Macdui wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:53 am
Playbook has some good stuff on what Rishi Eyebrows is up to today, if anyone fancies a bit of economic geekery. Goat will like it, the whole Playbook briefing this morning is sponsored by fish.
The Guaridan has been plugging
this idea about UK adults getting £500 vouchers to spend in struggling UK economy areas. Which is either a lot of lattes OR 0.01% of a family holiday to Centre Parcs, I think.
I think the scheme happening well improbable, but you know, weird times.
Well that's my morning procrastination sorted.
Can we not just cut to a UBI?
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:54 am
by Bat Macdui
Loralei wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 am
Bat Macdui wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:22 am
Is that like the Sure Start thing which ended up full of Yummy Mummys doing baby massage? *ducks*
No, Sure Start had demonstrable and considerable advantages to the poorest families (although clearly wasn't without controversy; I hadn't heard about the Hackney thing). The scandal is that it was cancelled. The maternity fund was a bit odd though, as someone who recieved it twice but didn't really need it.
I do agree with you. My comment was a not very veiled dig at Ruby, who did baby massage in Moss Side.
Which I found hilarious at the time.
Plus, like Marth. I am aware that some places it didn't work because it didn't reach the people who would have benefited most. But that was problem that should have been sorted by tweaking delivery, not cancelling it.
Re: Pandemic Politics and Economics
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:55 pm
by emma_p
Bat Macdui wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:22 am
Is that like the Sure Start thing which ended up full of Yummy Mummys doing baby massage? *ducks*
Kate Garraway went to my local Sure Start when I lived in Islington