New World Order - Politics 2021

[Smunder Woman]

Apparently he is trying to claim that she orchestrated the whole coverup or something

[Heebie Jeebie]

I know. I am so disappointed by him.

[Ruby]

During the referendum, when Salmond was asked about details like currency and membership of the EU, he answered questions in a very Trump/Boris way.

[Smunder Woman]

He is a vile man.

[smalex]

Apparently he is trying to claim that she orchestrated the whole coverup or something

Cover up of the thing he says he didn't do anyway?

[Morganna]

I can't work out what's going on. Why have papers been redacted (and by whom?), and how is anyone supposed to give evidence without being able to refer to redacted things? If it's about the AS court case, presumably the court records will be available somewhere - if they can be redacted there is not much hope of justice being seen to be done. Why can't the redactions be made known, at least as far as saying that the missing information is names of witnesses to X (or whatever), even if their names are kept secret?

If NS has misled parliament (over what? The AS case, or something else?) then why shouldn't she be held to account? AS has been found Not Guilty of assault, so why is he dredging it all up now? Or is he saying that he was framed in the first place? Or alluding to something else altogether?

Where is John Craven's Newsround when you need it?

[Ruby]

As far as I can tell. He is suggesting that people in the SNP & government ran a campaign to convince women to complain about him. Sturgeon is now covering up that that happened. But who knows? I think the stuff that has been redacted is information about the names and identifying details of people who made complaints against him - but that is supposition on my part.

[Ruby]

Also, she said she didn't know about accusations when she did.

[Morganna]

Thanks. It makes sense for their names to be left out - I thought it was more dodgy-sounding than that.

It's coming up on the News at 6.00 now - it might all become clearer soon.

[Smunder Woman]

Apparently he is trying to claim that she orchestrated the whole coverup or something

Cover up of the thing he says he didn't do anyway?

Yes, she both created a conspiracy against him, and covered what he did up

[Ella77]

Sturgeon’s pretty awful too. She’s utterly thrown women under the bus for the trans cause.

[smalex]

Also, she said she didn't know about accusations when she did.

This is the only bit I can follow. It does make me feel a bit uncomfortable.

[Smunder Woman]

Yeah that has totally changed my opinion of her, but I'd still back her over him

[smalex]

Yeah that has totally changed my opinion of her, but I'd still back her over him

OR pretty much any of the other viable options in British politics, I reckon.

[Edith Bacon]

Yeah that has totally changed my opinion of her, but I'd still back her over him

Absolutely!

[Pippedydeadeye]

I genuinely believe that he’s just pissed off that she’s been more successful/popular than him.

[sally maclennane]

I genuinely believe that he’s just pissed off that she’s been more successful/popular than him.

This is what I think. He's just furious that she's turned out to be better than him, and isn't suitably grateful. Or that she didn't back him unreservedly.

[Bat Macdui]

This is a handy short explainer.

I agree with Pip.

[Red]

Sturgeon’s pretty awful too. She’s utterly thrown women under the bus for the trans cause.

Yeh she totally has. I think she feels the younger support would push the independent vote over the line, so f*ck the women she tramples over in the meantime.

I tried to get a grasp of this on the story from Newsnight and whilst I don't think he sounds like a nice man at all, if his allegations are true then its pretty appalling. She'd happily see him in jail to get the top spot?

And who ordered the redaction of info? I mean, NS will do anything to get to May for the elections, but I wouldn't trust her with my (imaginary) dog.

[Morganna]

On the news last night he said that he was not allowed to refer the redacted parts of his own evidence (from the trial), even though they are widely available online.

I still don’t understand that. If the redacted bits are the names of women, why not anonymise them instead? Something’s not right about all of this, and whilst NS does come over as a much better leader than the idiot Johnson, if she has got there by corrupt means it needs to be exposed.