The Mock Turtle

That's terrible, Morgs.

IWLTS How about not climbing mountains in really shit weather, let alone in bloody trainers? I'm getting sick of hearing about people like you.

IWLTS That’s a very cool out of office message. It’s from a senior guy, whose message says something like “I work part time, and I’m afraid you’ve caught me on my regular long weekend [etc.]

I really like the casual tone and the fact that it’s a senior man not trying to hide the fact that he works part-time. You don’t see this much in the City!

That is refreshing, Ella!

Iwlts: finally a sensible answer! And one that isnt limited to "that's not my responsibility"! And oh look, its from a female team member. What a surprise.

IWLTS I am not google maps or fucking Siri. Fuck off.

IWLTS Did you mean to send me that? To my grandparents' old gardener, who appears to have sent me a GIF of Joey saying "How you doin'?". I don't really want to ask.

That's weird, Lily. Has he been in touch with you/your family recently or is it out of the blue?

IWLTS Ha! I knew there was a reason behind your volte-face about getting divorced. And I'd congratulate you but officially, I don't know anything about your engagement yet.

(I'm really sitting on my typing fingers to stop myself sending a passive-aggressive "I hear congratulations are in order" message).

We text occasionally, but not like that! He washed his dog with Ariel, so I'm pretty sure he's not all there.

IWLTS I AM SO GREAT! I AM SO GREAT! (I am obviously not going to say that, but a rival company have just tried to poach me, and I am ridiculously flattered and a bit chuffed.)

IWLTS You really are a fabulous, kind and generous woman.

To my friend's MIL (that I have never met) who has welcomed my friend's new fiancé and his 5 year old son with open arms in her home for a skiing holiday with my friend and her daughters. Friend's husband (MIL's son) died tragically 5 years ago in a car accident.
I just love that MIL is happy that her DIL has found happiness and love again and is including Fiancé and Son in her family sphere.

I love that, SunnyMum!

Beatrix wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:16 am Any chance you can use that to leverage a higher salary, Lily? A man would, just saying.

They raised my salary last year so I can't really ask again! But it might make them more inclined to kick out Shouty Bloke.

Sunnymum, that is kind, and good to read. It's made me a bit weepy.

Lily wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:06 am

Beatrix wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:16 am Any chance you can use that to leverage a higher salary, Lily? A man would, just saying.

They raised my salary last year so I can't really ask again!

Would a man say that, Lily? Really? If you don’t ask, you don’t get. The very worst that can happen is that they say no and make a note that you are aware of your value in the industry. They absolutely will not think less of you for it.

SunnyMum - that’s so lovely.

Would you consider leaving, if the job and salary suits and you also have the bonus of leaving shouty bloke behind? I think your current place would be on shaky ground if they expedited SB’s departure to keep you, even though I think it’s the right thing that he goes. I’m not sure how they could do it?

rosy, that’s not your ex is it?

I know a man probably wouldn't say that, but he probably wouldn't care about looking - and being - a dick!

I'm not being serious about them getting rid of SB to keep me. That would be wrong on so many levels. I can't say I have considered leaving at all, beyond wanting to get away from SB as he poisons it all and makes me feel ill and angry. Him aside, I love my company and what I do and I work with brilliant people so I wouldn't consider it. However something is stopping me saying no - perhaps because I feel like I ought to keep my options open? I may do a thread in a bit.

IWLTS... well, I’m not quite sure really. My boss obviously has the arse about me having another hospital appointment today. He’s asked me what it’s for and when I’ll be back online (wfh today). I’m pretty sure my medical issues are private, and how can I possibly know when I’ll get back home? I guess what I should say is bugger off, really

Cheeky sod! I would be tempted to say "my womb".

Lily wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:10 pm I know a man probably wouldn't say that, but he probably wouldn't care about looking - and being - a dick!

Do you think asking for a pay rise makes that person a dick?

Margo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:20 pm IWLTS... well, I’m not quite sure really. My boss obviously has the arse about me having another hospital appointment today. He’s asked me what it’s for and when I’ll be back online (wfh today). I’m pretty sure my medical issues are private, and how can I possibly know when I’ll get back home? I guess what I should say is bugger off, really

I’d be tempted to reply along the lines of ‘I don’t think you are allowed to ask me that.’ And maybe take some advice if it looks like he’s starting to get twitchy about your appointments. If he doesn’t know the employment law around managing people with medical conditions it would be useful for you to know what he should be doing.

I hope you are OK, Margo.

Edith Bacon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:48 pm

Lily wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:10 pm I know a man probably wouldn't say that, but he probably wouldn't care about looking - and being - a dick!

Do you think asking for a pay rise makes that person a dick?

I think it might be a bit of a dick move if he'd just had one and if he was paid pretty well for what he did and if the company had done a lot for him, yes. I would feel a dick.

Yes, sorry Margo, I forgot to say what Edith said: I hope you're alright. You are entitled to appointments if and when you need them - and saying what Edith says makes it clear you know your rights. He appears not to.