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Dics, you really were a really tall cunt. :love2: God I hope I've remembered that properly or that might sound a little off. :))

My stupid (developer planted) catnip is also attracting all the cats and infuriating Moo, who sits on the windowsill looking out at them indignantly. I like it as it's pretty in summer and absolutely full of bees, and does well in that sunny dry spot, but there are maybe 20 or more plants of it all of which are really sprawling and it's ridiculous. I should set up a catnip toy business. :idea: Anyway I'm planning to remove some plants and keep others so it can be mixed with other plants rather than just a massive strip of pure straggly catnip.

Mulch chat: this time I've used a mix of well rotted manure and composted bark, but I think you can use ordinary compost (I don't have enough ready), leaf mould, strulch (I've been using this too but at this point I've forgotten the specific purpose I bought it for :lol:) etc. At this time of year I THINK you're mostly protecting the vulnerable from frost and giving them extra food but more broadly it helps keep in moisture, repress weeds and improve the soil. I am mainly heaping around my new and/or tender plants thickly, and trying not to heap it over where I've planted bulbs. Monty said recently that it's better to have a small thick layer than a large thin one. I added composted bark because I believe it to be good for soil structure which I need on the side part of the outside garden, and because it was on 4 for the price of 3 at the garden centre. :))

I think I am buying a tree. :disco: I woke up yesterday with a tree solution to a difficult back of border spot (I want to block out where we're overlooked, but I don't want to cast too much shade or damage the garden walls with excitable tree roots) - a fastigate liquidambar. I have only learnt this word yesterday - it means it's a sort of dwarf that still gets very tall but only gets 1-2 metres wide (reports vary so I'm erring on the larger side). I need to clear out some pointless shrubs the developers left (I wanted to give them a chance to see if they did anything interesting or showed signs of getting tall enough to work at the back of the border, and mostly the answer is no, though there's a couple of good ones that can stay/move position). My main obstacle is the traffic jam of waste material and the fortnightly brown bin pick up. :lg:
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:mog: Perfectly remembered.

I'd love to plant it out as it would be nice for George to loll around enjoying it freely but he would end up fighting all the visitings toms.

That's a bit rubbish your garden waste is only fortnightly! Luckily mine is weekly and I do fill it weekly at times.

So a nice skinny but tall tree?
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Ours is fortnightly too - I've made friends with non- gardening neighbours! :))

Lovely plan with the liquidambar, Goat - we have them on our road and they look glorious atm. They are scarlet and the gingko are golden, lovely combination.

I love watching the local cats investigate our catnip. One was in the compost the week I deadheaded them. :mog:

Thanks for the mulch tips, Goat.
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I know! We had weekly at our old house. We've only just got the bin, previously we were composting and taking anything else to the tip but it was getting a bit much. And they've just started charging for the brown bin, so I don't think non gardening neighbours will have one, but I bet we could bin share a bit with next door as we're unlikely to be both filling our bins every fortnight...

Yes, skinny but tall, a little poplar-esque (I hate poplars :)) ) but not as extreme/harsh. They have amazing autumn colour. The front of the deep bed is all perennials that die back so I'm trying to plant the back part with things that are interesting outside the spring to late summer season so that section takes over for a few months (and it doesn't matter if the back gets a bit hidden by exuberant flowers in the summer when it's just being green). I've got dogwood, winter flowering clematis, a couple of different vibernums and a mahonia (not all planted yet). And spiraea.

How wonderful to have liquidambar and gingko as your street trees! Your area lives up to its name. Obviously I am now googling dwarf gingkos (I definitely don't have room) :lol:

I thought you were deadheading the cats at first glance, harsh. :lol: I briefly had catnip in the old house, it lasted less than a week. When this was planted there were hardly any cats about so it's gone mad.
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I saw some lovely red ones online when I googled the new words. Get a red one like Abs.

I need to take a leaf out of your book as you have a natural gardening eye, Goat and consider things properly. Whereas I just go nuts when Farmer Gracey has a bulb sale. I am looking forward to spring though because I planted out 50 interesting and gaily coloured tulips and black; 35 white alliums and 10 black and white anemone.
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Ha, I am an absolute fool for a sale. So many times this year I've thought, that's it now, I'm going to tidy everything up, improve the soil, and not plant again until spring and then some 40% off all our bulbs and half dead shrubs no-one else wants email drops into my box and next thing I know I've spent £100 on things I shouldn't have, plus a few extra bits and pieces to make the delivery charge worthwhile. Your bulbs sound gorgeous, I love a black and white springtime, my front bit is mostly white with some lime green and very deep dark purples (planned, I have to wait till spring for some things).

I THINK they're all red (in autumn at least, they are unremarkable in summer) and the one I have my eye on definitely is. :love2: I only knew about them because there was one in a park near me (oh and near abs! You are being followed around by liquidambars. :lol: ) that was stunning so I had to find out what it was. That was absolutely enormous though, definitely not a (average sized) garden cultivar.

My hori hori knife has just arrived! :disco: My bulb planting from hereonin will be joyous. :look:
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I need to get more shrubs and things in for the end third of my garden. This year I planted tomatoes, courgettes and rainbow chard in the gaps but next year there will be too many bulbs to do casual veg growning. Your front bit :flirt: sounds lovely. I've got some huge lime green gladioli next to my black sambucus and I like that against it. I like green flowers actually and have some green tulips hopefully popping up in spring time.

I love the colours of autumn. The reds are just glorious in the sun.
My hori hori knife has just arrived! :disco: My bulb planting from hereonin will be joyous. :look:
Oh I want one of these now!
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I thought I had read about them at the beginning of this thread but I went back and I can't see anything now. I've been meaning to get one for ages but forgot, then someone mentioned using them for planting bulbs and ping! they came back into my head.

I love the sound of your glads, they're usually so blousey and lime green would just take them down a notch to make them quite special, I think? Especially against a black sambucas. My developer-planted skimmia is a lime green (when in bud, which goes on for months); I've taken a lot of them out but kept and moved some as I think they're very pretty, I just don't need 300 of them in a rectangular hedgey block. And I think I have some lime green hellebores, but I've gone so mad on hellebores I no longer have any idea which is which. And some euphorbia.

The best laid plans of mice and gardeners though. :)) You can guarantee that the star plants will not like their spots and something unexpected really will and it will all turn out in some completely unexpected formation.

Last Gardeners World this week. :cry: If Patti doesn't come out at the end I'll be disconsolate till spring.
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I am putting one on my wish list. I've been mourning the demise of my trowel thing that had depth markings on it.

Yes, the lime green ones are lovely. I think I accidentally moved it pre flowering this year - thinking it was a rogue beared iris - then it didn't flower and now I've lost its location as I can't remember where it is buried. I love lime green hellebores! I've got some green ones with pinky-white edges next to some black ones.

I GIS the skimmia and recognise them so thanks for teaching me what they are. Nice spikes of those dotted around sound like good enduring fillers.

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Me too, it makes me weirdly emotional (in a good, comforted way). It also makes me talk to the screen and I don't really realise until I hear suppressed snorts from the next room when I've exclaimed "ooh, lovely ranunculas, Monty" at the telly.

I wonder where your mystery lime glad will spring up! Your hellebore combo sounds gorgeous.

My skimmia are a bit (not massively) unusual with white flowers rather than red (lime green buds). I think they'll be lovely when they have dark colours around them to set them off but just as a block they looked blah. They're not very happy at the moment though, I am trying to perk them up. I think they were too closely planted and could barely breathe. There were around 30 just crammed in together! Honestly I could cheerfully crown these developers for some of their short sighted planting. It feels such a waste to pull them out but they're so overplanted, when there are just a few with space to grow into themselves I hope they'll be happier.

My dogwood and summer flowering clematis have arrived, looking a bit sorry for themselves as they're at leaf-losing time. I am not planting them out in this weather. :))
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I have a dogwood that I put in years and years ago but I cheaped out and bought one with green stems rather than red, and it's planted in front of an evergreen bay hedge so it adds absolutely nothing to my winter garden. I hope yours is more effective, Goat!
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Oh no! :lol: Mine is definitely red already, but of course just a tiny baby right now. It's an "Anny's Winter Orange". Who knows if it will enjoy the spot I've allocated it.
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I still love my hori hori, enjoy it Goat!

Do you have any euphorbia, Dics? They often have green flowers - we have euphorbia characias and they have lovely large chartreuse flowers in late winter, which seem to last endlessly.

Now it has stopped raining I've taken some pics for you, local trees on the street (gingko and liquidambar) plus two of our acers that are looking so lovely and neon,
which the pic doesn't capture properly (next to the silly bridge/ pond).
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Oh they're all beautiful! :love2: I especially love your acers (and I am fond of your silly bridge which brings them out, even if it does look like there's a pagoda out of shot). I wonder if those liquidambars are like "mine" as they look quite narrow? Possibly just the slimness of youth. :)) I'm now wondering if I can squeeze an acer in anywhere. I don't need a lawn...

My week has been building to this moment: my brown bin has been emptied! May the pulling up of dull shrubs begin (tomorrow).
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I also wondered if they might be like yours - they were planted to replace horse chestnuts, so it makes sense they might have chosen slim versions.

It's a pagoda bench which I dare not sit on as it's covered in lichen and quite rickety, but which I haven't quite got the desire to bin!

I'm jealous of your empty bin - I have about a quarter of space in mine, which I'm expecting all the leaves and branches that came down in the past 48hrs will quickly fill. Enjoy! :))
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Oh I didn't even see your pagoda bench! :love2: I just thought a pagoda was a likely pairing for the bridge. And I was right. :))

Oof, was there a lot of actual damage? We escaped most of it, it was very rainy but the wind wasn't that dramatic. I'm planning and prioritising bin space - first a couple of things in the proper garden that need to go in order to get my new plants in (but will leave some other stuff for now even though it will make me itch to do so, I want to get it all neatly done but there will not be bin space), then to tackle the side garden of doom/excessive developer planting of stubborn and prickly shrubs. I can't get my alliums in I've cleared that section to my satisfaction.
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The acer in your garden are amazing Abs! How lovely to have that view just outside your window (even if you can't sit comfortably to admire it quite yet :))).
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Is your Virginia creeper in full swing now, Del?
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Lovely colours!

All along this plastic wall was nettles, bindweed and brambles. So I've finally got around to digging it out :bob: the bin is full of just the roots of those three!
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God, well done! None of those are easy to get out. Are you scratched and stung to kingdom come?
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