Time For A Change

Post Reply
User avatar
Pippedydeadeye
Directory Pipquiries
Posts: 89524
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:15 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Pippedydeadeye »

Annual leave was what gave me a real, medication-needing headache yesterday.
Edith Bacon
Posts: 20047
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:15 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Edith Bacon »

When I worked at the bank, I deliberately restricted my career options to non-line manager roles. It meant I had to specialise instead, which is limiting in itself, but not having to be responsible for people and the things they believe are problems was worth more than any promotion.

You lot are vindicating me all over again :))

Good luck, Est.
User avatar
Estrella
Posts: 21386
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:13 pm
Location: The Future

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Estrella »

I’m lucky in that I have a specialisation too. It’s just that I manage the team full of more junior specialists. This new role is within a central department assessing concept and investment reviews for projects within the whole of government which is pretty interesting and adjacent to my specialty just now.

Speciality, specialist, specialisation. Blah, blah, blah :mog:
User avatar
sally maclennane
Posts: 49106
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:01 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by sally maclennane »

I quite like managing people, just not 28 as I was doing until recently (now 16 so not exactly a small number but better than 28!)
Christ on a bendy bus son, don't be such a fucking faff arse
Ella77
Posts: 97779
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:55 am

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Ella77 »

At those numbers it's basically crowd control. Horrific. I like line management, but only if it's the main part of the job. It's impossible to squeeze it in alongside other duties and do it well.

Good luck, Est.
User avatar
sally maclennane
Posts: 49106
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:01 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by sally maclennane »

Ella77 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:44 am At those numbers it's basically crowd control. Horrific. I like line management, but only if it's the main part of the job. It's impossible to squeeze it in alongside other duties and do it well.
Totally agree, if it was all I had to concentrate on, it would be fine. Its all the other shite I have to do.
Christ on a bendy bus son, don't be such a fucking faff arse
User avatar
Kenickie
Kenneth Attenborough
Posts: 45803
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:43 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Kenickie »

I'd just like a job where I do my own thing and occasionally email jobs I don't like to other people. I don't want fortnightly meetings or to be responsible for people's development etc and listen to all their gripes and problems.
If your back's against the wall, turn around and write on it.
User avatar
Chicky
Posts: 17981
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:35 pm
Location: Narnia

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Chicky »

I am not a fan of line managing people. In fact I took a step back from doing so a couple of years ago, and then we restructured and I now have to manage people again :verm:

Good luck Est!
olive
Really Creepy
Posts: 21810
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:06 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by olive »

Good luck, Est.

I don’t mind line managing people generally but one of my direct reports needs a lot of time. Endless project meetings, updates, priority reviews. Luckily, she’s excellent at her job but I need her to stop putting in hour long meetings for things that can be wrapped up quickly. She’s also a fan of the Friday afternoon meeting. :ruby:
User avatar
Hazey_Jane
Posts: 16621
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:13 pm
Location: here, there and everywhere

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Hazey_Jane »

Edith Bacon wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:21 am not having to be responsible for people and the things they believe are problems was worth more than any promotion.
That might be one of the wisest things I’ve read on here. You’re bang on.

I mentioned on the last page about a job that I was going to apply for where the JD was ‘moon on a stick’. After 3 separate people independently of each other warned me not to apply- including the lady who’s acting up in the role- I did not and am absolutely fine with that decision.
User avatar
sally maclennane
Posts: 49106
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:01 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by sally maclennane »

Hazey_Jane wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:43 pm
Edith Bacon wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:21 am not having to be responsible for people and the things they believe are problems was worth more than any promotion.
That might be one of the wisest things I’ve read on here. You’re bang on.
I think to survive as a people manager, you have to develop a pretty thick skin. I like to think I'm pretty supportive but I absolutely don't take on other people's problems especially when I don't agree that they are problems. I often challenge back and I point out that said "problems" are the downside of a job that (in our case) has a lot of upsides eg good pay, good Ts and Cs. I'm sure my team love my regular reminders that all jobs have issues :ballet:

I can absolutely understand that people choose not to do people management for that reason, but I don't think its as miserable as listening to people's problems all day. I get a lot of satisfaction from seeing people develop - 4 of my current colleagues were direct reports of mine at some point.
Christ on a bendy bus son, don't be such a fucking faff arse
User avatar
Hazey_Jane
Posts: 16621
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:13 pm
Location: here, there and everywhere

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Hazey_Jane »

I would love to have you as a manager, Sal.
User avatar
sally maclennane
Posts: 49106
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:01 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by sally maclennane »

Hazey_Jane wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:35 pm I would love to have you as a manager, Sal.
Aww thanks 😊
Christ on a bendy bus son, don't be such a fucking faff arse
User avatar
Estrella
Posts: 21386
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:13 pm
Location: The Future

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Estrella »

I’ve got an interview for that role. It’s going to involve being given a case study which I then need to present to them and three questions. With 15 mins prep time. Interestingly another manager in my business unit mentioned today they’d applied for it as they thought they would be perfect and are waiting to hear back about their application, so looks like he hasn’t been shortlisted (the interview request came yesterday)
Ella77
Posts: 97779
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:55 am

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Ella77 »

Ooh, good luck!
User avatar
Estrella
Posts: 21386
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:13 pm
Location: The Future

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Estrella »

Thanks. I’m looking forward to it strangely. And it will be what it will be. It’s not until 8 Nov though.
Wiggle
Posts: 3576
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:02 am

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Wiggle »

I'm nearly at my 6 month mark in my secondment and so far I am loving it. Sure I have some days of endless calls which is painful but overall I am happy and more importantly getting lots of positive feedback.
Last night I had a very interesting call with my senior line manager and the option making my role permanent was mentioned. It's still very early days and it might not happen but I'm pleased the conversation had started.
User avatar
Kenickie
Kenneth Attenborough
Posts: 45803
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:43 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Kenickie »

Congrats, you must be really impressing them for them to be thinking about that. Hope it all works out.
If your back's against the wall, turn around and write on it.
User avatar
sally maclennane
Posts: 49106
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:01 pm

Re: Time For A Change

Post by sally maclennane »

Thats great news, Wiggle! Well done!
Christ on a bendy bus son, don't be such a fucking faff arse
Ella77
Posts: 97779
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:55 am

Re: Time For A Change

Post by Ella77 »

Nice one, Wiggle!
Post Reply